1 00:00:08,750 --> 00:00:05,829 [Music] 2 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:08,760 I'm gonna be talking about prebiotic 3 00:00:12,020 --> 00:00:10,080 photochemistry today and we've actually 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:12,030 heard quite a bit about photochemistry 5 00:00:15,980 --> 00:00:13,410 sauce one of the benefits of going 6 00:00:18,260 --> 00:00:15,990 towards the end of the conference I get 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:18,270 to invoke a lot of what other people 8 00:00:22,130 --> 00:00:20,730 have already discussed and in particular 9 00:00:24,050 --> 00:00:22,140 I'm going to be talking about how we can 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:24,060 use photo chemistry to build bigger 11 00:00:27,170 --> 00:00:25,890 molecules we've talked a lot about photo 12 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:27,180 stability and how that can be really 13 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:28,740 important so we don't break up molecules 14 00:00:34,580 --> 00:00:31,289 but I'm gonna be talking more about how 15 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:34,590 we can make bigger molecules using photo 16 00:00:37,819 --> 00:00:36,540 chemistry so I think it's important to 17 00:00:40,910 --> 00:00:37,829 define what I mean when I'm talking 18 00:00:42,619 --> 00:00:40,920 about molecular complexity you can think 19 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:42,629 about complexity as just having a large 20 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:44,610 mixture of lots of molecules but in this 21 00:00:49,639 --> 00:00:47,010 case I really do mean forming bigger 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:49,649 molecules so how do we form covalent 23 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,530 bonds without biology in a prebiotic 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:55,199 setting and so if you have simple 25 00:00:59,869 --> 00:00:57,570 molecules like our favorite fatty acids 26 00:01:01,939 --> 00:00:59,879 we've been talking about a lot how did 27 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:01,949 we get from those simple prebiotic 28 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:04,320 available molecules to the more complex 29 00:01:09,140 --> 00:01:06,330 biomolecules that are actually needed 30 00:01:12,410 --> 00:01:09,150 for life and so I'll be talking about 31 00:01:15,679 --> 00:01:12,420 quite a bit this model system for making 32 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:15,689 simple double tailed lipids where we 33 00:01:21,410 --> 00:01:19,020 sort of are in an intermediate region of 34 00:01:23,899 --> 00:01:21,420 chemical space between these simple 35 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:23,909 single tailed fatty acids and the much 36 00:01:28,219 --> 00:01:26,430 more complex phospholipids that are in 37 00:01:30,530 --> 00:01:28,229 modern cells and so there's a way of 38 00:01:32,929 --> 00:01:30,540 doing this photochemically using a very 39 00:01:34,370 --> 00:01:32,939 simple system but before I get into the 40 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:34,380 specifics I want to step back a little 41 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:36,180 bit and talk about both prebiotic 42 00:01:41,149 --> 00:01:37,979 chemistry and photo chemistry in general 43 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:41,159 and so again we've heard a lot about how 44 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:43,170 prebiotic chemistry is sort of how you 45 00:01:48,530 --> 00:01:45,000 go from simple systems to complex 46 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:48,540 systems and that's great except that 47 00:01:53,899 --> 00:01:51,119 there's always the back reaction of 48 00:01:56,450 --> 00:01:53,909 going back from a complex system to a 49 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:56,460 more simple one and so if we're thinking 50 00:02:02,179 --> 00:02:00,000 about a system that isn't being driven 51 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:02,189 in some sense there's always going to be 52 00:02:04,660 --> 00:02:03,540 an equilibrium and even if your 53 00:02:07,639 --> 00:02:04,670 equilibrium is thermodynamically 54 00:02:09,410 --> 00:02:07,649 favoring this more complex system you're 55 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:09,420 still kind of going to be stuck in this 56 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:12,720 equilibrium state and so you generally 57 00:02:14,330 --> 00:02:13,110 need 58 00:02:17,090 --> 00:02:14,340 a driving force to maintain 59 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:17,100 disequilibrium which is often an input 60 00:02:23,450 --> 00:02:20,370 of energy and so if you just think about 61 00:02:25,370 --> 00:02:23,460 going from simple processes to the more 62 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:25,380 complex things including life you're 63 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:29,190 maintaining disk equilibrium and so when 64 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:30,540 we need to think about energy sources 65 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:32,040 there are lots of different prebiotic 66 00:02:36,610 --> 00:02:34,950 energy sources you can pick and we've 67 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:36,620 we've heard a lot about a lot of these 68 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:40,200 but solar radiation is a really 69 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:42,450 attractive energy source for a couple of 70 00:02:46,190 --> 00:02:44,250 different reasons one of which it's just 71 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:46,200 a much larger energy source than 72 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:47,190 anything else that would have been 73 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:49,380 available this particular study was only 74 00:02:53,479 --> 00:02:50,970 looking at UV light that was less than 75 00:02:55,310 --> 00:02:53,489 250 nanometers which is clearly not all 76 00:02:59,390 --> 00:02:55,320 of the light in the system but even that 77 00:03:02,240 --> 00:02:59,400 is over a couple over magnitude more 78 00:03:06,290 --> 00:03:02,250 energy from the Sun than the other 79 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:06,300 sources and it's also important to think 80 00:03:10,070 --> 00:03:08,940 about photo chemistry and light from the 81 00:03:11,540 --> 00:03:10,080 Sun because photo chemistry is 82 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:11,550 fundamentally different than thermal 83 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:13,890 chemistry thermo chemistry you have a 84 00:03:19,340 --> 00:03:17,040 bath of molecules in say an aqueous 85 00:03:21,289 --> 00:03:19,350 environment and you heat it up and 86 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:21,299 you're all just jostling around the 87 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:23,700 whole system is moving and it's 88 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:26,340 generally not particularly specific 89 00:03:30,979 --> 00:03:28,620 whereas with photo chemistry you have a 90 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:30,989 specific molecule that absorbs light at 91 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:33,390 a certain energy range and you can 92 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:35,250 excite a single molecule or a single 93 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:37,530 type of molecule in a solution while the 94 00:03:41,770 --> 00:03:40,049 bath remains low and the other molecules 95 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:41,780 are not necessarily excited and 96 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:45,209 photochemistry is also sort of 97 00:03:49,699 --> 00:03:47,430 inherently a non equilibrium system 98 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:49,709 because you're exciting the molecule and 99 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:52,200 it's also very dependent on which 100 00:03:55,820 --> 00:03:54,480 molecule you choose what chemistry are 101 00:03:59,690 --> 00:03:55,830 going to get out if you're going to get 102 00:04:02,420 --> 00:03:59,700 out any chemistry all right so we've 103 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:02,430 seen a plot from Parker that was based 104 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:05,340 on a lot of the same data but what 105 00:04:07,970 --> 00:04:06,690 conditions are we talking about when 106 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:07,980 we're talking about the young son during 107 00:04:12,140 --> 00:04:10,290 the prebiotic conditions so we have a 108 00:04:13,970 --> 00:04:12,150 few things on here so we have the sort 109 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:13,980 of modern extraterrestrial solar 110 00:04:19,099 --> 00:04:17,220 spectrum outside the atmosphere and then 111 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:19,109 we have this model of the young son of 112 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:21,630 about 3.8 billion years ago and then 113 00:04:26,970 --> 00:04:23,520 I've also put the current surface 114 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:26,980 spectrum on here so it's this 115 00:04:32,110 --> 00:04:30,320 son but looking at it sort of on the 116 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:32,120 surface so what light is making it 117 00:04:36,940 --> 00:04:34,220 through and of course we see this really 118 00:04:38,590 --> 00:04:36,950 distinct cutoff at 290 nanometers which 119 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:38,600 is where ozone is cutting off the UV 120 00:04:44,350 --> 00:04:41,330 light but you notice the changes we're 121 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:44,360 seeing in the solar spectrum due to the 122 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:47,600 atmosphere are sort of of the same order 123 00:04:52,930 --> 00:04:49,910 of magnitude for lack of a better word 124 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:52,940 as the changes of several billion years 125 00:04:57,070 --> 00:04:55,280 of solar evolution and so it's really 126 00:04:58,780 --> 00:04:57,080 important to think about what prebiotic 127 00:05:01,690 --> 00:04:58,790 atmospheric filters we're going to have 128 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:01,700 and the we have guesses for what the 129 00:05:05,260 --> 00:05:03,530 prebiotic atmosphere was and what 130 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:05,270 filters there would be they're not I 131 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:07,600 would say particularly well constrained 132 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:11,450 but most people agree that most of the 133 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:13,880 wavelengths of light at about less than 134 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:15,650 200 nanometers would be pretty much 135 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:16,970 filtered by the time you get to the 136 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:18,680 surface of the earth and that there 137 00:05:24,460 --> 00:05:21,650 would be some attenuation between 200 138 00:05:26,410 --> 00:05:24,470 and 250 nanometers so we've heard a lot 139 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:26,420 about sort of the more UV that's given 140 00:05:30,910 --> 00:05:28,310 off by the younger son but most of that 141 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:30,920 it really is out in this higher UV range 142 00:05:34,690 --> 00:05:33,290 that wouldn't necessarily make it all 143 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:34,700 the way down to the surface of the earth 144 00:05:39,460 --> 00:05:36,680 where we're at least considering doing 145 00:05:41,170 --> 00:05:39,470 useful photo chemistry but there is sort 146 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:41,180 of this almost hundred nanometer range 147 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:45,710 of sort of quote unquote useful UV near 148 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:49,850 UV radiation that can do that can help 149 00:05:58,270 --> 00:05:55,850 build chemical complexity and so as I 150 00:05:59,790 --> 00:05:58,280 was saying photochemistry is molecule 151 00:06:02,710 --> 00:05:59,800 specific but it's also very 152 00:06:05,470 --> 00:06:02,720 environmental environmentally specific 153 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:05,480 and so we were saying we don't 154 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:07,910 necessarily know a lot about the early 155 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:09,530 Earth conditions during this period of 156 00:06:13,090 --> 00:06:11,960 prebiotic chemistry I think we're all 157 00:06:17,230 --> 00:06:13,100 pretty well agreed that there were 158 00:06:19,690 --> 00:06:17,240 oceans or water of some variety we have 159 00:06:21,130 --> 00:06:19,700 guesses with nitrogen and co2 for what 160 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:21,140 the atmosphere was there are different 161 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:22,160 estimates of whether there would have 162 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:24,770 been say organic Hayes's to help filter 163 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:28,370 some of the UV light out and then other 164 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:30,680 people have estimated sort of what 165 00:06:35,530 --> 00:06:33,680 minerals and land there would be but for 166 00:06:37,690 --> 00:06:35,540 our purposes we generally try to keep it 167 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,700 really simple so we use aqueous 168 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:38,880 environments and 169 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:42,480 use sunlight and so one of the molecules 170 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:45,330 we use is pyruvic acid here it's an oXXO 171 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:48,720 acid and so it's got a carboxylic acid 172 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:51,510 and then a ketone and most of your photo 173 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:53,610 chemistry and where you absorb light is 174 00:06:56,690 --> 00:06:55,050 going to be controlled by what 175 00:06:59,840 --> 00:06:56,700 functional groups are in your molecule 176 00:07:03,320 --> 00:06:59,850 so here we see the absorption spectrum 177 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:03,330 for the gas phase pyruvic acid and you 178 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:05,580 notice that the aqueous phase pyruvic 179 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:07,410 acid is blue shifted so where these 180 00:07:12,980 --> 00:07:11,280 electronic states are lying really does 181 00:07:16,220 --> 00:07:12,990 change as to whether it's a gas phase 182 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:16,230 species or an aqueous phase species but 183 00:07:22,220 --> 00:07:19,050 if we use this longer tailed alkyl lock 184 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:22,230 so acid - oh a it really hasn't changed 185 00:07:28,670 --> 00:07:25,290 much from the aqueous phase pyruvic acid 186 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:28,680 so the alkyl tail isn't changing much of 187 00:07:34,850 --> 00:07:32,970 the electronic structure here and we got 188 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:34,860 a good overview of your Blonsky diagrams 189 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:36,720 earlier today so I won't have to go into 190 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:38,640 it in too much detail but this is for 191 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:40,890 pyruvic acid it's just a cartoon sketch 192 00:07:45,470 --> 00:07:43,740 of what goes on with the photo chemistry 193 00:07:47,750 --> 00:07:45,480 here but basically you absorb a light 194 00:07:51,620 --> 00:07:47,760 you go up to this singlet and PI star 195 00:07:56,030 --> 00:07:51,630 manifold and then in the gas phase you 196 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:56,040 the molecule falls apart into methyl 197 00:08:00,620 --> 00:07:58,290 hydroxy carbon and then can go on to 198 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:00,630 make small molecule products but as soon 199 00:08:05,210 --> 00:08:02,940 as you're in aqueous phase you now can 200 00:08:08,030 --> 00:08:05,220 inter system cross to this triplet state 201 00:08:11,030 --> 00:08:08,040 via a conical intersection and you can 202 00:08:12,530 --> 00:08:11,040 get really interesting products and so 203 00:08:15,020 --> 00:08:12,540 when we're talking about what the 204 00:08:18,170 --> 00:08:15,030 triplet state is doing it interacts with 205 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:18,180 another pyruvic acid in this case this 206 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:19,680 is the dial but there's an equilibrium 207 00:08:24,770 --> 00:08:21,720 between the pyruvic acid and the dial 208 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:24,780 and equation and it D carboxylates and 209 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:27,300 it generates two organic radicals and 210 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:32,190 the organic radicals can go on to make a 211 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:35,010 number of products but the one we're 212 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:37,410 going to focus on in particular is this 213 00:08:41,810 --> 00:08:40,110 this is dimethyl tartaric acid so by 214 00:08:44,450 --> 00:08:41,820 absorbing light and a three carbon 215 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:44,460 molecule decarboxylated and then making 216 00:08:48,890 --> 00:08:47,250 a radical we can recombine two of these 217 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:48,900 radicals to form a six carbon molecule 218 00:08:53,769 --> 00:08:51,440 so you're making a carbon-carbon bond 219 00:08:57,550 --> 00:08:53,779 and you're you know essentially 220 00:08:59,829 --> 00:08:57,560 dimerizes a molecule and so that's cool 221 00:09:02,259 --> 00:08:59,839 for a lot of reasons but it's especially 222 00:09:03,579 --> 00:09:02,269 interesting if you stick alkyl tails on 223 00:09:06,009 --> 00:09:03,589 here instead of methyls 224 00:09:08,199 --> 00:09:06,019 because then suddenly you have a way of 225 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:08,209 going from a simple single tailed 226 00:09:12,569 --> 00:09:10,040 surfactant that's prebiotic lee possible 227 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:12,579 to a simple double tailed surfactant 228 00:09:19,420 --> 00:09:17,600 which is really interesting from because 229 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:19,430 generally there hasn't been a great 230 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:21,680 abiotic way of making double tailed 231 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:23,810 lipids it's not a phospholipid but it's 232 00:09:28,869 --> 00:09:25,670 sort of in this region of chemical space 233 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:28,879 in between the single tailed carboxylic 234 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:31,850 acids and the phospholipids it's also 235 00:09:36,970 --> 00:09:34,310 really interesting because we start well 236 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:36,980 below the aggregation concentration of 237 00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:39,889 the single tailed lipid the 208 238 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:42,560 but upon fatah lysis and no further 239 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:45,050 perturbation of the system you actually 240 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:47,420 see this the solution turned cloudy and 241 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:51,490 so we're getting self-assembly of these 242 00:09:55,929 --> 00:09:53,689 we're getting self-assembly as the 243 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:55,939 photolysis proceeds as reforming these 244 00:09:59,410 --> 00:09:58,160 double tailed molecules because double 245 00:10:01,360 --> 00:09:59,420 tailed molecules generally have a lower 246 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:01,370 critical sort of aggregation 247 00:10:05,439 --> 00:10:03,529 concentration and we've done a little 248 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:05,449 bit of initial characterization of these 249 00:10:10,809 --> 00:10:08,240 guys they are pretty mono dispersed in 250 00:10:13,329 --> 00:10:10,819 size at about a hundred nanometers in 251 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:13,339 radius and we can tell that they are 252 00:10:19,809 --> 00:10:17,120 spherical so basically they're too big 253 00:10:21,999 --> 00:10:19,819 to be micelles we haven't definitively 254 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:22,009 proven that they're vesicles but they're 255 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:24,170 of the correct size to be vesicles and 256 00:10:29,889 --> 00:10:28,130 even if they are just sort of ordered 257 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:29,899 aggregates that's a really interesting 258 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:32,000 phase of self-assembly to get something 259 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:34,250 that's so mono dispersed in size so 260 00:10:37,780 --> 00:10:35,569 we're still working to characterize this 261 00:10:39,730 --> 00:10:37,790 but in the next couple of minutes I want 262 00:10:41,530 --> 00:10:39,740 to talk about this other chemistry or 263 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:41,540 using the same idea of chemistry that 264 00:10:46,389 --> 00:10:43,610 we're really excited about right now so 265 00:10:49,660 --> 00:10:46,399 again we've got these organic radicals 266 00:10:51,850 --> 00:10:49,670 and when you're in a solution of pyruvic 267 00:10:54,819 --> 00:10:51,860 acid it makes sense that these two are 268 00:10:57,970 --> 00:10:54,829 going to recombine to make the molecules 269 00:10:59,949 --> 00:10:57,980 come together but in a prebiotic system 270 00:11:02,049 --> 00:10:59,959 you're not just going to have a single 271 00:11:04,210 --> 00:11:02,059 molecule floating around doing chemistry 272 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:04,220 with itself and so if we can come up 273 00:11:07,620 --> 00:11:04,540 with 274 00:11:09,630 --> 00:11:07,630 way to use these photoactive organic 275 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:09,640 radicals as drivers for further 276 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:12,010 chemistry that's really interesting and 277 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:14,050 so these are initial results that were 278 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:16,090 we're finishing up right here but 279 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:18,850 basically we can take pyruvic acid it 280 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:21,040 also works for 200 a and we can take a 281 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:24,100 short-tailed carboxylic acid so in this 282 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:26,530 case hexanoic acid and we can hydrogen 283 00:11:32,610 --> 00:11:29,530 abstract from the hexanoic acid to form 284 00:11:35,420 --> 00:11:32,620 a radical here and then we do see it's a 285 00:11:38,910 --> 00:11:35,430 minor product given how our experimental 286 00:11:41,310 --> 00:11:38,920 constraints but we do see both the 287 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:41,320 pyruvic and the hexanoic acid these 288 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:43,930 radicals coming together and we see a 289 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:47,710 mixed product between the two and so if 290 00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:49,570 that's the case then we really have 291 00:11:55,140 --> 00:11:52,390 developed sort of a primitive or a 292 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:55,150 fairly robust system for generating 293 00:12:00,000 --> 00:11:57,370 primitive lipids double tailed lipids 294 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:00,010 both with two oxoacids coming together 295 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:03,910 but also being able to take a molecule 296 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:06,250 like a carboxylic acid that it's not 297 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:09,130 itself photo active and can't do photo 298 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:11,050 chemistry but we can use the photo 299 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:14,830 active species as drivers for further 300 00:12:18,450 --> 00:12:17,440 chemistry and with that I just want to 301 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:18,460 thank everybody you've seen this picture 302 00:12:37,230 --> 00:12:34,950 so work better on ourselves or in both 303 00:12:40,530 --> 00:12:37,240 quit well yeah so I didn't talk about 304 00:12:42,390 --> 00:12:40,540 that today but so these molecules are 305 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:42,400 surfactant molecules they are going to 306 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:44,830 partition to the surface and we in our 307 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:46,330 group an atmospheric chemistry group 308 00:12:50,940 --> 00:12:48,370 really like to think about aerosols 309 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:50,950 which have a very large surface area to 310 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:53,770 volume ratio and so you can get a much 311 00:12:58,350 --> 00:12:56,650 higher relative concentration in these 312 00:13:01,320 --> 00:12:58,360 little aerosols that have so much 313 00:13:02,820 --> 00:13:01,330 surface area and so probably I mean it's 314 00:13:04,770 --> 00:13:02,830 a surface area argument if you're 315 00:13:06,750 --> 00:13:04,780 fitting a you know concentration things 316 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:06,760 so we would love to do it on their cells 317 00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:09,340 but this was all studies actually I'm 318 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:10,750 used to seeing aerosols from your group 319 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:22,020 all right another ferris wheel